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Betrayal Trauma Healing & Addiction Recovery

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We have over 500+ episodes of RAW HONEST Conversations with Couples, Men, Women, and Seasoned Therapists about the most intense topics related to Sex Addiction, Infidelity, Pornography Consumption, Betrayal, Broken Trust, Narcissim. You will not find a podcast with more clarity in helping couple's and individuals heal after a relationship has been shattered.

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Welcome To Therapy Brothers

Tyler and Brannon Patrick here. We are a couple of brothers that both decided to go down the road of therapy following after our own passion. We've been in the specialty of sexual addiction recovery and betrayal trauma healing over 20 years. We've come together, as brothers, to create a place where we help people with these same issues that we've helped others with.

We're not perfect but we can say we are trying to do our best to help people get out of the pit of addiction and trauma and into a place of Joy, Peace, Power, Freedom and Love. It's totally possible. We've seen it happen countless times. We may not have walked the exact path as you, but we have been down a road that probably looks similar. Regardless, come walk the path with a couple of brothers.

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Real Testimonials

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So helpful!

Smileyjdg

This podcast has been so helpful to me. Brannon and Tyler have gone over multiple topics and questions that I’ve had in my life and my marriage. Thank you both for sharing this knowledge from a Christ-centered point of view. Thankful for you both!

What a gift!

Ozzie C Davis

Very glad to have opportunity to call in. These guys ask great questions , have a wisdom about them and the experience behind their words. They’re full of compassion and care. Hopefully they are as big of a blessing to others as they are to me. Keep up the good work T&B!

Helpful framework

cruize101

These two have a solid foundation for treating sexual compulsion, while also being fun to listen to. I was recently on and they were a joy to interact with!

Discerning and insightful

Jakey D.

Tyler and Brannon are a pair of professionals that compliment each other well. They are discerning in how to help guest reflect on their experiences and choices with empathy and a perspective of inherent worth of everyone they interact with. Their expertise has helped me move from a place of shame to a place where I can love myself and improve my life and relationships. Thank you Tyler and Brannon for this invaluable resource!

Great resource!

LkG1323

They don’t lie when they say they know recovery. Tyler and Brannon have been a huge help to my husband and I as we have navigated addiction and betrayal healing and recovery. I recommend their podcast & program to anyone who feels lost after betrayal because of a partners addiction.

Priceless

Chelsea's Garden

I am a betrayed wife and this podcast has taught me so much about my own experience and my husband’s experience as he navigates recovery. It has made me have so much more love, patience, and compassion towards him. I will be forever grateful to the therapy brothers.

Life changing podcast!!!!

Rakattack!

I’ve been listening to Therapy Brothers nonstop, and I can’t recommend it enough! Tyler and Brennan have such valuable and practical advice that genuinely helps with personal growth, I’ve had to switch up my lifestyle because with your guys wise words and compassion I love myself more and truly want to change for myself. This is all because of you guys.

I think I get it now

iamjenni

I am grateful for your advice, insight, honesty, explanations, patience, Christ-like love and selfless service. You both make a difference. You have both given me strength when I have needed it most.

Living with Intention

edwcarter1

This podcast has taught me the meaning of intentional living. Tyler and Brannon bring on incredible guests and promote vulnerability and honesty, which I have learned are foundational aspects of true recovery. I’ve learned to run from my emotional discomforts for years, which has led to unwanted behaviors. But these episodes often remind me the importance of facing discomfort head-on, and that recovery comes through vulnerability and directly confronting painful emotions.

This podcast has been saving my mental health…

Awsome Temple run fan

I just really wanted to thank you both . This podcast is the best podcast I ever heard of and I am an avid listener to many . You guys are so on point , so helpful, so knowledgeable about the subject, only someone that has gone through this all can be so assertive. I found you guys while searching for how to understand sexual addiction. Your episode 58 should be heard by everyone and anyone. Another one I loved and wanted to thank Jessy for his vulnerability was number 379 , that has helped my decision more than I can tell you . I am going through so much and you have helped me understand my husband’s addiction while keeping my decision firm . I scheduled a call with you , but I chickened out last minute and I do regret it … I will Try again. Thank you for all you do.

Huge help!!

JRZA101

Brannon and Tyler have been a huge help in me navigating the waters of my separation from my wife due to my poor coping behaviors related to my addiction. They have also helped me to better understand how true masculinity looks and how that actually creates safety for me and my family. Regardless of the outcome of my separation, following their advice has improved my mental health around the anxieties associated with those potential outcomes, given me peace with either outcome, and my relationship with my wife has actually been improving! Thank you Tyler and Brannon!

My favorite podcast

Habitual listener

I love to hear the work that you guys do! The conversations are always amazing and inspiring.

Excellent resource!

JCA in Dallas

I listen to several podcasts about overcoming sexual addiction and general self-improvement, but this is my favorite. Brannon and Tyler have great perspectives from their many years of experience. But their substantial wisdom aside, I really enjoy the format of the podcast. It’s helpful when they have a guest caller on, so there can be an in-depth conversation about the situation. And the two brothers complement one another in their insights — sometimes agreeing, sometimes offering slightly different nuances in their opinions, and sometimes seeing things very differently. The two perspectives are great and are enhanced by being able to draw on shared experiences and family relationships. The often witty banter between brothers who obviously respect and love each other is also fun.

Long time listener AND

Mark Scribner

I am still blown away by these guys. I recently listened to Brannon’s episode on sexual interdependency in marriage, and it blew me away. It challenged me to be honest rather than “caretake” my spouse and tell her what I know what she wants to hear. I’m learning that my wife gets the very best of me when I’m honest. I find myself wanting intimacy more than anything. . . Knowing and being known, interdependent and caring for each other’s heart, allowing the process to expose where we need to do our individual work. Thank you, Brannon!!

Relatable and Helpful

Azrunningmom

So grateful that these two came together! So many different topics discussed, that I wouldn’t even think I needed growth and development in. Also, so many podcasts that I have been able to share with my husband that he has appreciated as well. He better relates and understands how things are presented in the podcast. Definitely has been helpful for my marriage, and my individual faith as well! Thank you!

Absolutely love this podcast.

warkid1

I am a frequent flyer to this podcast. A part of my daily work is listening to Tyler, Brannon, and their guests. The stuff they talk about is so it’s like a bull for those working through addiction, recovery, or those just trying to live in a more whole hearted life. I highly recommend this podcast, to anyone who needs it.

Sage advice

Majestic_ Aneter

These guys are great at what they do. They meet you where you are, challenge you, and lead you along a pathway that brings you to a meaningful conclusion all aligned with biblical principles. Thanks for listening and sharing your expertise!

Highly Recommend!

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Rachelle while I was listening to your episode I felt so strongly that I wanted to talk to you and give you a hug. So I hope you see this. I hear you and your frustration when you talked about everything being about your husband and him getting all the support. I hear your desire to be chosen and loved. Thank you for sharing your pain and vulnerability with us! I just wanted to share with you that there are hundreds of women who relate and feel for you. I want you to know that you are chosen! God has chosen YOU and loves YOU. I hope you know that and can chose yourself. Don’t give up. You are in the right place.

Best Therapists In The Industry

Archibald "arturo" the third

I’ve heard a lot of podcasts and worked with a lot of Therapists and the Patrick Brothers are the best by a mile. Tyler’s podcast on “surrender” is the best I’ve ever heard on the topic and the most helpful and instructional advise for someone trying to learn how to live a new life of surrender. Some need their morning cup of coffee to start each day. I just need a cup of therapy brothers podcast to start each day.

TBs for President

OC Professor

Brannon and Tyler are the bravest and wisest men in the public sphere in this country. I mean it! I’m a liberal dharma-practicing leftist woman and I listen to them religiously. Their combination of faith, compassion, warrior-spirit and intelligent therapeutic approaches to shame and trauma are exactly what we need to heal as individuals and as a nation. I may not agree with them about everything- but that doesn’t matter! They help me understand my husband’s experience in ways that help us so much. Plus they understand women’s experience without needing to privilege or disparage it in relation to men’s experience without. Brannon, the world needs your book- please publish !!

A Bold Pod

Henry’s Cave

I love the live call-ins and how raw and real so many conversations are. Hearing how others are applying their own healing and recovery, with live feedback and help from two dudes who are focused on getting to the root of things, has been really helpful in my personal life. I don’t agree 100% with everything they say, but the format gets me thinking in new ways that have come to be very insightful and helpful. Thanks for all the work you do.

Tuned In Therapists

CO Senior

These counselors know their stuff. They see things that other counselors miss. They have emotional intuition and deep perception into all human interactions I want to honor Tyler and Brennon for giving their time and expertise to help all of us hurting women after betrayal and for their insight and compassion. I am not married but I still listen and learn from them and would like to hear more about Brennon’s new career path. Thank you for your giving spirits

Honest, Authentic, Transparent

Bassoonman3

The therapy brothers are experienced, and extremely supportive in a variety of conversations with men and women on both sides of addiction and betrayal. I love these guys and appreciate their capacity to address the many stages of change, and controversial issues.

Just Awesome!

living life in love

Gentlemen- I just want to say thank you so much for your vulnerability, your heart and your wisdom and for doing this for everyone in the world! What a priceless gift! You are both doing the Lords work in my opinion and with such kindness and wisdom and heart! Love you guys!!

Empowering advice

Amanda8924

I have been listening on and off for about 2.5 years since I discovered this podcast during my second go-around in trying to survive my husband’s addiction, and I have learned so much. It helped push me and us toward an actual road to recovery. When I learned just a week ago that the progress was made only on my end and I am again at a crossroads, I found some alone time to tune back in, and caller Nicole’s episode #382 was so very relatable and clarifying for me. Thank you Nicole for being so brave to call in- I’m with you sister. And thank you Tyler and Brannon for your always compassionate and empowering advice. I started this journey 7 years ago and I read everything I could get my hands on and so much of it was toxic, especially in the Christian world which was devastating to me. As soon as I heard you two speak, though, the truth of what you were saying rang true in my soul. Thank you for doing this work and being a lifeline for so many people- both the betrayers and the betrayed.

Nailed it!

ShellD77

You guys totally nailed it on episode #381, walking the caller through how to get curious instead of defensive, how to simultaneously have empathy and still stand in true masculinity with boundaries instead of resorting to inauthentic Mr Nice Guy tactics or being a jerk. I appreciated your understanding and explanation of how a wife feels used and unseen (and therefore unsafe) when the husband is incapable or unwilling to notice or care whether or not she’s a willing participant in the bedroom, and how damaging that can be when he’s oblivious. It was a very validating discussion, thanks for digging deep on this one.

Expands understanding

Listener#101

It’s very helpful to hear listeners working through their problems in real time, lots of wisdom for every circumstance.

Amazing

ashelide24

Love this podcast. So helpful

I feel seen and heard

Karahan2

I’ve been meaning to write a review for a while, and Tyler’s touching episode on making amends reminded me. I am the betrayed spouse, and I’ve subscribed to a dozen podcasts dealing with infidelity. However, the Therapy Brothers are my favorite. Brandon & Tyler are phenomenal together. These men just “get it”. I feel so validated when I listen to them. I wish my husband would listen, too. I think he would appreciate the caring, nonjudgmental manner in which Tyler & Brandon speak to unfaithful partners. If you’re looking for actionable advice in healing yourself and your marriage, I highly recommend the Therapy Brothers podcast. I look forward to every episode. Thank you, Tyler & Brandon, for putting your heart & soul into helping couples through this traumatic experience. MORE

New perspective

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Brandon and Tyler have helped me feel known and understood while also challenging me to take a real look at my unhealthy patterns. Thanks!!

This podcast has changed my life thanks!!!

Jo3034

I just what to thank you guys for the information you guys are putting out every few days it’s been really helpful and eye opening. Between your guys podcast and group therapy I have come a long ways in my recovery that I didn’t think was ever possible just 6 months ago. I feel like I’m finally in control of my life for the first time in about 30 years. Thank you Tyler and Brannon for helping change my life for the better. I will be forever grateful for stumbling across your guys podcast. Thank you Jo.

Excellent program, balanced POV

Teriny

These brothers not only have great chemistry but they’ve got wonderful coaching skills and empathy for all of their guests. I learn relevant truths every time I listen. They know addiction, betrayal trauma, and recovery. Recommend it to all of my clients.

Dudes helping Dudes

Blacklikorice

Truth. Clarity. Courage. Intention. Commitment. This podcast continually strengthens me to live life on life’s terms. Lots of insights into accepting reality, noticing my immature inner child and choosing to go towards my mature adult.

Being vulnerable

Autumn Way

Thank you Janelle for finding the courage to come on the show and be a voice for wives. I know exactly where you are. It is so hard to put yourself out there again. I remember feeling the exact same way. Like Brannon said, I think this is normal as you try to find the courage to be vulnerable & attempt to trust again. I used to really shame myself over not being able to allow any vulnerability. I could see him making attempts but it was a huge roadblock. I worked through it intensely with my therapist and then WE had to work through it with our therapist…and what do you know, we’re swimming in the deep end and it is so much better than I ever dreamed of. God is shaping both of you into the humans you were created to be, to love and be loved. Thank you so much Brannon for your insight and all the help you provide to so many people. You have been a huge help to both my husband & myself. Keep it up! MORE

Tyler and Brannon know their stuff

Gossamer Whump

Tyler and Brannon are both experts in their field. I’ve seen multiple therapists before and Tyler and Brannon are head and shoulders above other therapists. I can’t say enough good about them.

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VBHamaker

These guys are excellent podcasters!! Concise. Bold. Articulate. They speak what we need to hear. Share this with all of your people.

Subscribe!!

VBHamaker

These guys are excellent podcasters!! Concise. Bold. Articulate. They speak what we need to hear. Share this with all of your people.

A truly transformative conversation

Groundedgrowth

Being a guest on this podcast was such a meaningful and grounding experience. Brannon and Tyler were incredibly kind, comforting, and thoughtful, while also offering truly insightful advice. They pushed me to think outside the box and gently encouraged me to dig deeper, which brought me so much clarity and a deeper understanding of who I am and what’s truly at my core. They also helped me really understand how to set healthy boundaries that align with my values—boundaries that are centered on me and what I can control. I walked away feeling empowered, understood, and grateful. I am so thankful for Brannon and Tyler and all the work they do to share their knowledge. They truly are changing lives.

Heart & Soul Reclaimed

Ekenitz

Dear Tyler and Brannon, I just wanted to take a moment to thank you both not only for what you do, but for who you are. After the Rising Sons retreat, I feel something in me has truly awakened, not just my mind, but my soul and inner child. You helped open a door that I didn’t even realize had been closed for so long. Through your example, I’ve felt my higher self begin to emerge, the part of me that remembers who I’ve always been beneath the armor, the pain, and the noise. You both have a gift, this rare ability to hold space for men to rediscover their hearts. I’ve never felt so safe, seen, and challenged all at once. You’ve created a brotherhood that transcends words, and it’s one I feel deeply honored to now be a part of. Thank you for embodying what true masculine strength looks like not dominance, but presence; not perfection, but authenticity; not preaching, but living truth. I consider it one of the greatest privileges of my life to call you both my brothers. Thank you for helping me remember who I am and for lighting the path for so many others to do the same. With deep love and gratitude, Eric

Re: Femininity

jciahnsjcikwmsh

Regarding episode #436 Another fantastic resource on the topic is the podcast “Conversations with Dr. Jennifer”, Dr. Finlayson-Fife, May 6th episode titled “The power of Femininity in Relationships and Society”

Spot on

bosslady2022

Thank you Tyler for your episode on integrity. It really resonated with me because I am a small business owner and I have tried hard to build my business on integrity, honesty and seeing the value in and worth in every person. This was a great reminder on how to live a meaningful life!

Amazing podcast!!!

DT Rvws

It is amazing what Tyler and Brannon can do with only an hour of time and essentially no prep with the caller beforehand. I love listening to the show even when I can’t totally relate to the caller because T & B provide therapeutic advice that I can apply to my own situation. Many of the episodes deal with betrayal trauma and I appreciate hearing the perspectives of both the betraying and the betrayed partners to increase my empathy and understanding of both situations. This is hard heavy stuff and the Therapy Brothers help get to the root of the issue and provide concrete next-steps towards healing and recovery. Thanks guys for all you do!

I loved this episode!!!

Because She Can

Episode #382 shout out to Nicole, My heart is with you Nicole. I have listened to this episode more than once. Thank you for being brave and owning your story and sharing on this podcast. I resonated with you being in such a hard place, me too. Keep doing your work, I’d love to hear a update on your situation so come back on the podcast again. Hugs and strength to you for choosing to step into the work with two feet. I’m on your team Nicole. Thank you both Tyler and Brannon great work!

Wow

30aB

So thankful for this podcast. Wish I would have found sooner. Recommend for anyone in a marriage with repeated betrayals and abuse, and struggling to know when enough is enough. It has helped me so much.

Encouragement

Darrend7

Hands down the best recovery podcast available! Listening to the last 2 episodes, Brian and Andy, I see you guys, I don’t know you guys, but in a real sense I do know you, because I was you! Your loved and seen and accepted my brothers! We are to walk in the new life that God has so graciously given us, accept that new life, embrace it, your faults and all and follow Christ! Know who you are, because you are infinitely loved and wanted! MORE

Great podcast

WesR80

Tyler and Brannon are so great at talking about the hard topics. I was a guest recently and I really benefited from our conversation. I felt their love and genuine desire to help me. This podcast is such a valuable resource.

Extremely Helpful

Awfelman

I have loved this show. It has helped me see things within myself that I can work on. Brannon and Tyler do great work in helping others without taking an approach that is shaming to those struggling with pornography.

Free Therapy

HaroldDean

I absolutely love this podcast. I often feel like I’ve just gotten out of a therapy session when I finish an episode. I have gained a healthier view of myself, my relationships, and what I want in my life by listening. I would not be where I am in my own recovery were it not for Tyler, Brannon, and the guests here. Thank you! MORE

The Best

Sparky-G-Force

By far my favorite therapy podcast out there. I am always amazed at the courage each guest brings to the show, as well as the wisdom, heart, and thoughtful insight that Tyler and Brannon convey. I look forward to each new episode. - Mark

Part of my dailies

Wags0890

This podcast has become a part of my daily rhythm, and the rhythm of my recovery. I have yet to listen to an episode, where I have not gained personal insight from Brannon, Tyler, and those who are willing to open up on the podcast. Thank you for the opportunity for growth, and I hope you provide to the addicts and the betrayed working through the messy middle of recovery.

Awesome!!!!

Farmerben71

Love listening, and learning how to deal with self and loved ones!

Relatable and Informative

Lily_JLbama

I love listening to Tyler and Brannon. The episodes are so comforting to me while navigating my betrayal trauma. I really enjoyed the episode about femininity vs masculinity. It helped give me a new perspective! Thanks brothers!

Yes yes yes

OlatheRickP

Great content, but as one coming out of conservative christiandom, I am sooo grateful that you were willing to interview a gay man in a gay marriage. This precious, condemned, hated population is way tooo far under represented. Please stand strong in the face of the inevitable backlash from this decision.

I love this Podcast

Erryn Adams

The 2 perspectives given by Tyler and Brannon challenge my views and push me to change for good- so keep an open mind and heart! I have been listening since this podcast started for my relationship and I’ve actually found the information here has been more valuable in my life as a whole. I am so grateful to have been lead here as part of my journey. I have also seen Tyler for therapy over the past 3 years and joined one of his women’s groups and I would tell everyone to try it (betrayal trauma/ addiction or not)- it has all been invaluable in assisting me in becoming who I have hoped to be. So thank you Brannon & Tyler!

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